Raw footage for the documentary "Veeck: A Man For Any Season." In this tape, Bill Veeck and John Mengelt continue to talk about the business of baseball at Lake Michigan, with the Chicago skyline in the background.
00:00Copy video clip URL Bars and tone.
00:40Copy video clip URL Bill Veeck: “You don’t have to get all the money there is.” Veeck argues that providing fun for the fans should be a greater consideration than making money. He uses the example of the Cubs making money on their yearbook at $3 each, and he wonders whether it was better when it was a $1 and everyone got to take home a souvenir, even if it meant the team didn’t make money on them.
03:44Copy video clip URL John Mengelt takes a couple of runs at introducing himself and Bill Veeck. He talks about how he’s been away from sports since he retired, and how he used to do a show with Bill Veeck. He talks about sitting around before the show and arguing with Bill Veeck about sports.
05:29Copy video clip URL Veeck: “You know, John, you can only argue with equals. I don’t have so many people, you understand, that I can argue with… not that I’m an egoist, just as a statement of fact.”
06:45Copy video clip URL Veeck talks about advertising the St. Louis Browns stadium as a good, quiet place to stop and think.
09:12Copy video clip URL Veeck asserts that he allowed anyone to seek his books, as an owner. Mengelt contends that the owners keep their books closed to the players, and that they have two sets of books.
10:33Copy video clip URL Veeck jokes that the banks have his leg in a vault, and they let him see it once in a while.
11:20Copy video clip URL Veeck and Mengelt discuss the impact of the Messersmith decision. Mengelt says it “took the players out of slavery.” Both agree that baseball is going to be in trouble.
13:30Copy video clip URL “No sport is completely stable today,” says Veeck. Mengelt says, “Baseball is out of control” because players that sit on the bench make too much money. Veeck agrees.
14:30Copy video clip URL Veeck argues that “television is the control of sports.” It determines when you’re going to play and where you’re going to play and what time. Mengelt argues that it’s no different from trying to get people into the stadium; it’s all about revenue.
18:02Copy video clip URL Veeck talks about why he can’t go into ownership again. “I can’t make a fetish of losing money.”
18:21Copy video clip URL End of tape.